Hello everyone!
I am Antonio from Barcelona/Spain.
Also in Spain it is beginning to be mandatory to include accessibility files in DCPs.
Like several of you, trying to find a way to do it.
Is there any way to see Christian's video? It would be a great help.
Thank you!
Antonio
Inserting accessibility content to a DCP
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Re: Inserting accessibility content to a DCP
That video deals with a specific format that is used in Brazil - Libras. It is much easier with conventional captions or assistive audio tracks. Just start with some basic test files. DCP-o-matic offers everything to test the results - audio mapping in the player (to make HI/VI-N tracks audible), and a closed captions viewer in the player.
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Re: Inserting accessibility content to a DCP
Hello Antonio,
Very pleased to speak with you.
I suggest you check which files will be mandatory in the DCP in your country.
Example: Here in Brazil (Signal Language(LB) + Audio Description (AD) + Descriptive Subtitles(CC)).
For CC see the photo below:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UbugCn ... sp=sharing
AD: See the picture below
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14DCwJS ... sp=sharing
LB: See the photo below
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J0B99L ... sp=sharing
Note: The LB system is a little more complex, as it needs to have some more settings to be built into the DCP.
I take advantage of the discussion to ask you two questions Carl.
1st When will there be an update where we can visualize the LB embedded in the DCP?
2º Have you ever seen a problem like this?
Where the LB lose their instability and come back after some time.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1onIQ0Z ... sp=sharing
This should help some DOM users.
I hope it helps.
Willian
Very pleased to speak with you.
I suggest you check which files will be mandatory in the DCP in your country.
Example: Here in Brazil (Signal Language(LB) + Audio Description (AD) + Descriptive Subtitles(CC)).
For CC see the photo below:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UbugCn ... sp=sharing
AD: See the picture below
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14DCwJS ... sp=sharing
LB: See the photo below
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J0B99L ... sp=sharing
Note: The LB system is a little more complex, as it needs to have some more settings to be built into the DCP.
I take advantage of the discussion to ask you two questions Carl.
1st When will there be an update where we can visualize the LB embedded in the DCP?
2º Have you ever seen a problem like this?
Where the LB lose their instability and come back after some time.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1onIQ0Z ... sp=sharing
This should help some DOM users.
I hope it helps.
Willian
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Re: Inserting accessibility content to a DCP
I don't know - I'm working on it, but I'm not sure when it will be ready.1st When will there be an update where we can visualize the LB embedded in the DCP?
Sadly I have no experience with the playback of sign language tracks (and no way to test them, which makes things a bit difficult...) Maybe someone else on the forum has an idea.2º Have you ever seen a problem like this?
Where the LB lose their instability and come back after some time.
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Re: Inserting accessibility content to a DCP
Hi Carl,
Thanks a lot for the quick turnaround.
I will wait for new ideas.
Thanks a lot for the quick turnaround.
I will wait for new ideas.
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Re: Inserting accessibility content to a DCP
I guess Carl would need to see a short DCP using libras. It's video encoded into an audio track. The trouble is, Libras is used very little outside of Brazil currently, so, there is very little material and experience with it in the rest of the world.
It seems that it now common to use personal smartphones to watch libras? Can you name some apps that support it? How does the audio, that carries the encoded video, arrive at the smartphone? If the libras device cut's out, the reason is most probably that connection from the cinema server to the libras showing device. This needs to be special hardware. As far as I know, Dolby sells such a device, but only in Brazil:
https://professional.dolby.com/product/ ... azil/#gref
https://professional-dolby-com.translat ... =wapp#gref
As far as I can see, the central cinema device is a Mini-PC, that probably runs the audio track decoder and sends the signal to a smart-phone over wifi.
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It seems that it now common to use personal smartphones to watch libras? Can you name some apps that support it? How does the audio, that carries the encoded video, arrive at the smartphone? If the libras device cut's out, the reason is most probably that connection from the cinema server to the libras showing device. This needs to be special hardware. As far as I know, Dolby sells such a device, but only in Brazil:
https://professional.dolby.com/product/ ... azil/#gref
https://professional-dolby-com.translat ... =wapp#gref
As far as I can see, the central cinema device is a Mini-PC, that probably runs the audio track decoder and sends the signal to a smart-phone over wifi.
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Re: Inserting accessibility content to a DCP
The encoding part is reasonably well documented, but any example DCPs would be great.
Is the sign language always presented on a separate device/screen? I'm wondering about the best way to preview it in DoM - the options seem to be overlaying it somewhere on the main image, or putting it in a separate window (like we do with closed captions).
Is the sign language always presented on a separate device/screen? I'm wondering about the best way to preview it in DoM - the options seem to be overlaying it somewhere on the main image, or putting it in a separate window (like we do with closed captions).
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Re: Inserting accessibility content to a DCP
I would do it as with the captions, separate window.
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Re: Inserting accessibility content to a DCP
Hi Car and Carsten,
I'm following the discussion...
Carl, you can use any type of video file to play
pounds and a mini screen, I agree with Carsten, the best way would be to activate pounds like we did with CC.
Still, if you need I can send you some files for testing.
Thank you very much,
Willian
I'm following the discussion...
Carl, you can use any type of video file to play
pounds and a mini screen, I agree with Carsten, the best way would be to activate pounds like we did with CC.
Still, if you need I can send you some files for testing.
Thank you very much,
Willian
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Re: Inserting accessibility content to a DCP
Followed this for a bit, reached out to Dolby and few distributors in the US for any test content that had a sign language track. But came up empty on all fronts. I realize this currently isn't being implemented but I am currently installing Dolby DAS-100/300 systems and I would really like to have a way to test (and future-proof) these systems. The cable that ships with the Dolby DAS-100 is a poorly constructed 12ft UTP T cable that separates the wires and sends them to an RCA plug. There are multiple reasons this cable doesn't work for me, but regardless, I would like to test all channels of transmission from my media blocks to the sound processors and the DAS-100s for my installs.
So I am hoping someone has just a short "channel" test with the closed captioning, hearing impaired, visually narrative, and the new sign language video encoded in a DCP so I can feel confident about the Sign Language Video connections I'm making to the DAS-100.
Thanks!
Ben
So I am hoping someone has just a short "channel" test with the closed captioning, hearing impaired, visually narrative, and the new sign language video encoded in a DCP so I can feel confident about the Sign Language Video connections I'm making to the DAS-100.
Thanks!
Ben